I have to agree, I've always enjoyed watching the Haka, but seems strange that the whole topic of the Haka wasn't raised prior to the Samoan match by the critics. Do they think it is only the Kiwis who get an advantage from performing the ritual?

I enjoyed the "haka" and of course that shouldn't be stopped.But i don't like the new version at all the "throat-slitting", with the tongues out.
Rubbish, ridiculous and silly violent.

DP:
"The traditional Maori dance is a distinctive pre-match ritual of the visitors".

Who is Maori in the NZ team?

The haka signifies New Zealand's Maori heritage, culture and history and many Maoris have had the privilege to have worn the Silver Fern.

Some Maori players who have worn the Silver Fern over the past two/three years -

Angus Macdonald, Carl Hayman, Corey Flynn, Daniel Braid, Deacon Manu, Greg Feek, Jono Gibbes, Marty Holah, Paul Tito, Ross Filipo, Scott Linklater, Sean Hohneck, Thomas Waldrom,Wayne Ormond,
Caleb Ralph, Carlos Spencer, Craig McGrath, David Hill, Hayden Pederson, Leon MacDonald, Luke McAlister, Neil Brew, Piri Weepu, Rico Gear, Riki Flutey, Rua Tipoki, Shannon Paku, Tamati Ellison, Norm Maxwell, Corey Flynn.

All true of course. Still begs the question as to why they felt the need to bring in the "throat slitting" stuff.

I would suspect that Maori culture and history has alot more to than rubbing noses and sticking tounges out.

Whether the "new version" is right or wrong, what I don't understand is that the NZ side had enacted it in front of rugby crowds and media twice previously, even before Twickenham last Saturday.

Two times previously, complete with some may say, "throat slashing motions" yet the world media only picks up on it when it's done for the 3rd time against England at Twickenham.

Why did the worlds media not have pieces about it before the game at Twickenham then? maybe it's ok to do the "new haka" throughout the world but not before a full house in London just in case it upsets or infuriates the "true rugby nation".

Who knows.

I didn't actually know they'd changed it until all the fuss in the media. Which still begs the question that if the Haka is such a part of NZ and rugby tradition - which it doubtless is - why was there any need to add in the "throat-slitting".

Just to tell you the media in France talked about the new version after they used when they played V South Africa in the last Tri Nations.

The crowd in SA whistled the AB team doing that.

Thanks for these informations,
And you're right about the Maori Culture and History
It was just a wee comment about the Pacific Islands...
Samoa could be a real great team with all the guys from NZ team.
About Scotland:
Scotland has a great Rugby History so,
I hope the scots will fight to show the world Scotland is still there

I agree with Danno Parks, but I also agree that the throat cutting aspect should be cut out. Why not just stick to the Haka we all know? It would be good if the Scots had their own battle cry. Their mighty history is just as awe inspring as any country.

for your edification--NZRFU website

The Haka - In the Beginning

Some authorities record the first use of the haka by the New Zealand team as occuring in Britain in 1905/6. Sydney based Kiwi journalist Spiro Zavos however claims the very first New Zealand team, in New South Wales in 1884 "used a Maori war cry to introduce itself to its opponents before each of its matches".

A Sydney newspaper reported: "The sound given in good time and union by 18 pairs of powerful lungs was sometimes tremendous. The NSW men declared it was hardly fair of the visitors to lighten them out of their wits before the game began". Zavos also claims that the 1903 New Zealand team in Australia (the first to play an official test match) used a mocking haka Tena koe, Kangaroo! Tupoto koe, Kanagaroo! (How do you do, Kangaroo! You look out, Kangaroo!), a rather unkind reflection on the early superiority New Zealand achieved against Australia.

It was however the 1905/6 All Blacks in Britain who really popularised the haka. Whether they performed it before every match is uncertain, but it was done before the first of the five test matches, against Scotland on 18 November.

Though neither of the team's two Maoris, Billy Stead or Bill Cunningham, played the haka was still performed before the Welsh test, The Lyttelton Times reported "The war cry went well, and the crowd listened and watched in pleased silence, and thundered their approval at its close. But for dramatic effect it was far surpassed by what followed. The Welsh team, led by Teddy Morgan, started, in Welsh, their national anthem, 'Hen Mad fy Nhadau' (Land of my Fathers). Their singing was somewhat weak in volume, and it was some seconds before the eager crowd could hear its melody. Then suddenly forty thousand Welsh voices caught up the noble strain, and from every comer of the ground rose the deep, swelling, heart-stirring chorus ...... The effect was intensely thrilling, even awe inspiring .... the All Blacks could not be blamed for feeling that they were a few against many .....*
The Wales Test 1905. The Nag's Head Press. 1983.

The South Wales Echo report of the match includes the words of the haka and a translation supplied by team members, making it clear that it was the Te Rauparaha haka that was performed.

The "Originals" Were not however the first rugby team to perform the haka in Britain. That distinction goes to the "Native" team on 3 October 1888 before their tour opener against Surrey. The privately organised "Natives" tour had to pay its way and the pre match haka was no doubt seen as a means of attracting the public. The original intention was that the haka would precede each match and that mats and other traditional costume would be used. The mats were soon discarded and the initial reaction to the haka was rather unfavourable. The war cry they are described as using, "Ake Ake Kia Kaha", suggest it was not the Te Rauparaha haka they performed.

I can find no reference to the next All Black team, to Australia in 1907, doing the haka but the 1910 side did, before matches and also at a reception for the American Universities team. Popular demand forced a repeat performance, before the Americans responded with their war cries "which were quite different from anything heard in the Antipodes".

The next touring side, to America in 1913, held daily haka practices on board ship. The team was given a big welcome on arrival in San Francisco and before disembarking the All Blacks gave their haka, which had the crowd yelling their approval"

In Australia in 1914 the Brisbane Courier allowed itself some license in describing the haka that preceded the match against Queensland "The visitors, after lining up in front of the grandstand, gave a new Maori war-cry, H Murray acting as the chief wild animal, uttering in dead Maori tongue strange piercing sounds punctuated with wild beating of hands and stampede of hoofs. The others barked a response in similarity and ended up with something that sounded like three cheers. This is what the Maoris used to do in the good old days when they met any stray person wandering over the chiefs sacred territory without a licence. It was grace before supper. There was a parable behind the whole thing and that was that Queensland were going to be gobbled down whole."

It seems that by the time of the first World War the haka was established as part of top New Zealand rugby. The programme for a match between New Zealand Army and Wales on Boxing Day 1916 included the words of "THE NEW ZEALAND WAR CRY". They are the words of the Te Rauparaha haka but are described rather loosely as "the war cry of a famous Maori tribe, and is a challenge to the other fellow to 'come outside."'

Harry Jacob, Horowhenua's first All Black, led the haka for the 1920 team in Australia and George Nepia, later to become the first East Coast All Black, did so for the 1924/5 "Invincibles" in Britain. The latter side had their own haka, written for them during during the voyage to England by two supporters, Judge Acheson of the the Native Land Court and Wiremu Rangi of Gisborne. More complicated than the Te Rauparaha haka, it was performed before all but two of the tour matches, with the Press criticising the team for disappointing spectators on those two occasions.

There was some misunderstanding about the haka in Britain at this time. In his tour book lock Read Masters reported "The day of our arrival in England the following translation appeared in big type in some of the newspapers: 'Now we are in England feed us, feed us! Or we will tear you! tear you! tear you!!!' Although some girls in London treated the matter as a joke, and sent several of us packets of biscuits, stating that they were quite prepared to feed us, as long as we did not tear them to pieces! There is not the slightest doubt that this misinterpretation had the effect of prejudicing some people against our Haka, which was resented in some quarters."

New Zealand Maori teams had been fielded since 1910 and the 1926/7 New Zealand Maori team, on its long and very successful tour to France, England, Wales and Canada further popularised the haka.

That the haka had become a feature of New Zealand sport was evidenced during the disastrous (seven players were sent home) New Zealand Rugby League tour of England, also in 1926/7. One of the many points of dissension arose en route to England "The manager (an Australian) next affronted the players when they were crossing Canada by train and he demanded that they perform the Maori hake several times each day."

The 1928 team in South Africa of course did not include Maoris but the haka was performed before seven of the 23 matches, including three of the tests "and as usual was well received". Hawkes Bay wing Bert Grenside was one who led the haka in those seven performances.

Despite the booklet previewing their tour providing a translation one team that did not do a pre-match haka was the 1935/6 All Blacks in Britain, though they did do some practice on the voyage to England and some impromptu performances at social functions.

Generally the haka had only been performed by New Zealand teams playing away from home (there were some exceptions eg the 3rd test against South Africa 1921) but in 1975 when Scotland toured, during the World Cup in 1987 and since the haka has been seen here too. Buck Shelford led it in the late eighties, something he acknowledged he loved doing, and took it to a new level of efficiency. To quote Zinzan Brooke "Buck was the greatest haka-leader of them all. He meant every word of it and he made every word and gesture stick by the way he played the game."

RESPONSES
Most teams have watched the haka passively but some have not. In 1989 Irish captain Willie Anderson led his team forward to a virtual face to face confrontation. Newport that year retired behind their goalline, so the All Blacks advanced to the 22 to issue their challenge. English hooker Richard Cockerill eyeballed Norm Hewitt as he led the haka at Manchester in late 1997. There have too been various Australian reactions.

THE WOMENS' HAKA
At the 1991 World Cup the New Zealand Women's team were asked for a haka, and responded with part of the men's haka. Realising this was not really appropriate the team in 1994 sought and obtained permission from the Ngati Porou to use that tribe's women's haka.

OTHER COUNTRIES
Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery. After the success of the 1905/6 All Blacks' haka other teams touring Britain were expected to provide the equivalent.

The Springboks came up with a Zulu war dance, which they persisted with until 1928. All Black vice captain that year Mark Nicholls remembers the Springboks' war dance as "not much of a success".

The 1908/9 Wallabies, captained by Dr Herbert Moran, performed an Aboriginal war cry. Moran, a noted Australian surgeon, feeling the Aborigines had not been well treated, spoke strongly against the war cry, and hid in the back row when he was called on to perform it. It is doubtful if "Wallaby" teams persisted with it but the "New South Welshers" in New Zealand in 1921 performed a war dance before some of their games at least.

All three Pacific Island nations precede their games with a war chant Samoa used to perform the traditional "Ma'ulu'ulu Moa" on tour. However before the 1991 World Cup the "Manu" war chant, considered more "aggro" and effective in psyching players up, was composed. It certainly seems to have worked.

The Fijians chant is the "cibi" and that of Tonga the "kailao".

Before the Haka is performed by the team, the Haka leader, normally an All Black of Maori descent, will instigate the Haka and spur on those who are to perform the Haka with the following.

Ringa pakia
Uma tiraha
Turi whatia
Hope whai ake
Waewae takahia kia kino

English Translation
Slap the hands against the thighs
Puff out the chest
Bend the knees
Let the hip follow
Stamp the feet as hard as you can.

Ka Mate! Ka Mate!
Ka Ora! Ka Ora!
Tenei te ta ngata puhuru huru
Nana nei i tiki mai
Whakawhiti te ra
A upane ka upane!
A upane kaupane whiti te ra!
Hi!!

English Translation
It is death! It is death!
It is life! It is life!
This is the hairy person
Who caused the sun to shine
Keep abreast! Keep abreast
The rank! Hold fast!
Into the sun that shines!