So who do we blame for this one then Hugh? Could it be the inability for the team to defend? Or the possibility that the style of play is a little predictable? I mean if one week we are beaten by them running with a wide game and then this week we are beaten by the same wide game. Wouldn't you start to ask questions?

"We did not control our possession at the line-out, we knocked on, lost ball in contact and kicked badly.

This is the garbage that we supporters have been watching all season, its not getting better, if anything its getting worse, which is a comon theme of Glasgow's last few seasons. We start well and deteriorate as the season progresses.

You have to ask yourself, if players cant do the basics, should they be in possession of a pro contract....I think NOT! Time for a clear out and get the youngsters in, this shower will never win anything.

So, you think getting rid of all the current players and bringing in 30 young, raw and inexperienced players would solve all of our problems? Dream on!

Yes, we have obvious problems within the squad, namely our lineout, our handling errors and our lack of a full back in the named Heineken Cup squad - but these are things that our coaches and players need to work on together just now to turn Glagow Rugby into a great team and to improve on our current Celtic League position, and secure our position as top Scottish side for next season's European tournament.

There are already some young players getting involved in the pro side set up, namely Colin Shaw, Rory Lamont, Steve Swindall et al, and I am sure that they would agree that this step up would be much harder without the support and advice that comes from the older, more experienced players.

Talking of full-backs, Kenny did well in yesterday's game till he was taken off. Maybe we should have Kenny start at full-back for now. It would take the pressure off of Rory Kerr a little.

As for the line-outs, throwing in at a line-out's not as easy as you think.

I usually play at prop but have stepped in and played hooker too. Believe me line-out throwing is something you need to master!
I think we're taking stuff from the training ground and it's not coming off well.

Most of the line-out throws were long to the back of the line-out but there weren't any signs of the actual line-out communicating well with the hooker or vice-versa. Ditch the long line-out throws for now, they aren't working.

its bad enough watching this stuff at Hughenden. The thought that the rest of the country is able to see it too is a frightening thought. Hugh should have a look at the coaching of basic rugby skills and do something about that rather than hinting that the players on Sunday were wandering around the field being concerned for their contracts. As said above, we were not only poor in terms of basic skills, we were so predictable in terms of what we were doing with the ball in hand. Apparently the only idea we have as an attacking strategy is to give the ball to Andy henderson and have him run into people. The opposition don't have to watch all our games, they are all the same. Oh, and for Christmas, can we have a goal kicker please if we're not playing Dan parks.

"something you need to master"(throwing in).If a very experienced Scottish captain has not mastered it by now....can we not have the basics without all this back/no,forward/no,back, dancing around then oops! it wasn't mean to go there!

"Something you need to master" - What I meant by this is that the line-out throws for Glasgow are different from the line-out throws with Scotland. Different standings, different names, different positional changes.

It would actually amaze you how many different line-out codes there are within the Scottish and the Glasgow setup.

As I said in an earlier posting in the dorum. Forget the training ground "moves" and get down to the simple basic line-outs.

As a footnote Gordon Bulloch wasn't the only one to suffer from the line-out chaos on Sunday afternoon. When Scott Lawson came on he continued to do the exact same.

Obviously the same long line-out throws have come from the training ground. All they need to do now is master them and then they can bring them into play in games!

to be continued on forum!

And there is a suggestion that he might lead the Lions

So the team is out of the Heineken Cup, now, as Vicki says, let's get on with getting a top four position in the Celtic League.

As a matter of interest, how many players are on the injured list?

In terms of skills, etc, perhaps some of the so-called stars who are in the Scotland squad should step up and show some leadership! Or is playing for Glasgow, as opposed to a walk in the park against Japan, too much of a chore!